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Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 37	Posted - 2011.11.29 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote Sounds like someone lacked the fortitude to "make it" in Matari space. Oh well. Freedom is about more than the adrenaline rush, the bloodlust, and the cry of victory (or sometimes, of unaccepted defeat). Freedom is just that: the power to make your own choice about what you want. It was your choice to escape your old master's yoke, and it is now your choice to return to Amarr. For that, I commend you. However, there are many who never have that choice. Because of implants, the Vitoc method, or simply more force than you encountered, many are never allowed a free will -- even if they would make the choice to give it up as you have. I hope you realize this, and will never support slavery. If you do, expect to find yourself staring down a lot of autocannon barrels.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 37	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:30:00 - [2] - Quote Spes Aeternam wrote: So basically what your saying is that the justification for doing evil is the fact that your free to do it... No, I am saying that it is evil to not grant a fellow person the choice between good and evil. I am always free to open fire on whomever I want, but may be punished by CONCORD for my actions. That is fine. There are consequences to every action. However there are many of our brothers and sisters who cannot choose to do anything but follow another's bidding. No matter how "impeccable" that bidding is (as judged by the master himself or by others), that is an affront against humanity. Spes Aeternam wrote: I have done horrid things because I was free to do so. Sins to my own body, countless boosters and other carnal pleasures because I could. I have sinned in perhaps the most foul way possible, murdering an innocent man and his family for no reason other than that 'bloodlust' you speak as if your proud of it. These are the very reasons choice is important! A child that is not allowed to even conceive of fire will burn his hand if he first encounters it without supervision. That is what happened to you: lack of wisdom learned over a lifetime of free will was detrimental to your health. It is understandable that you want to retreat back under the wings of the Amarr lords after this, but tasting free life (and now, immortality) have marked you irreversibly. Better learn to live with it. And so far as the bloodlust and your masters' lost lives... it's regrettable, for your sake. Whenever possible, Ushra'Khan fires the shots necessary for freedom, to spare the consciences of the newly-freed (if not for retribution against thousands of misdeeds against our brothers). Spes Aeternam wrote: When a dog begins to bite and snarl, you put it in a cage, not let it loose and say 'look at it expressing its freedom.' While I have heard this argument many times, but it never makes sense. You are talking about freedom of movement, but I am not opposed to prisons. Correct me if I am wrong, but animals do not have freedom of choice to begin with, as they have neither souls, nor consciences. People do. To take that away is to degrade them to beasts. You are free to wish that upon yourself, but others should be free to make the same choice.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 37	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:22:00 - [3] - Quote Good and evil is all a matter of perspective. I believe that I am good. Your Amarr friends believe that they are good. I don't doubt that. Doing anything that you yourself believe is "evil" is... more than counter-intuitive. However, the definition of "good" and "evil" varies from person to person. It so happens you chose to have your "good" and "evil" dictated by a book that has been rewritten so many times throughout the millennia that any semblance of its original content hardly remains. That is fine. Me, I choose to do what is right (for my brothers, for my Republic, for Ushra'Khan, and for humanity everywhere). You have made your choice, and you believe it is good. You have made past choices you now believe to have been bad, so you strive to be better. I, too, have made my choice and I believe it is good. I, too, have committed acts in my past that I am not proud of. It's called moral relativism and you Amarr seem to have a great deal of trouble with it. Focus your piety upon yourselves and be "good", such that others with the same vision will join you and approve of you. Some Amarr do this. Others impose this piety upon their lessers. However, that is not true piety. That is mindless slavery, fit only for beasts of burden, not people. Otherwise, as a matter of honor, keep in mind that you will repay in full every drop of Matari blood you willfully spill.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 37	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:30:00 - [4] - Quote So every time the mooks in charge of Amarr decide something is "good" they can just decree it, or write it in the scripture? For that is what they do! I would understand having such faith in a decree made by your God himself, an infallible being, but not one made by people who are as flawed as you and I are. Even your church accepts some degree of relativism. Heard of the Khanid Kingdom?
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 38	Posted - 2011.11.30 01:16:00 - [5] - Quote Mikkel Lybecker wrote: You not only read it all, you even replied. Welcome to hell, enjoy your stay. Haw haw haw! Hey Spes, you should check out Lord Vaari, of the Church of Providence. I hear he's looking for new companions, and I think you're right up his alley.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 38	Posted - 2011.11.30 03:29:00 - [6] - Quote Come to think of it, I don't think escaping Damnation is really that hard. It's really slow.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 39	Posted - 2011.11.30 17:33:00 - [7] - Quote Spes Aeternam wrote: Perhaps in time I'll be trusted well enough to join the 24th someday. I sincerely hope so.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 39	Posted - 2011.11.30 18:07:00 - [8] - Quote Spes Aeternam wrote: I do find it ironic that someone who has callously slaughtered hundreds of ships is calling me out for being a criminal. I've seen your kills and you can hardly consider half of them to be even legitimate, just pirating. This is why its important to have some filtering of whom you listen to. Wait, what? Electus Matari, anti-pirate alliance, committing piracy? You guys have been holding out! Spes, before making such accusations and making yourself sound even dumber, consider that piracy is defined as destroying the ship of someone who was otherwise oblivious to your evil intentions, and was occupied elsewise, most likely not in a combat manner. -EM- do not shoot neutral entities, and have an explicit and public list of entities they consider enemies, and who should be aware they will get shot on sight. And in case you still consider yourself too superior to listen to anyone in this thread... I never thought I'd say this, but... Is there a fundamentalist Amarr in the house? Someone with a stick up their rear end, preferably? PIE? CVA? ...IPHAR?
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 49	Posted - 2011.12.01 17:34:00 - [9] - Quote Kalaratiri wrote: Astrid Stjerna wrote: Don't come after my friends. Especially cos I'm willing to bet you've got more friends than him I just noticed... are all you ladies in Teraa Matar tattooed?
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 49	Posted - 2011.12.01 18:05:00 - [10] - Quote Astrid Stjerna wrote: It's not specific to Teraa Matar, but yes, most of us have tattoos. That's pretty awesome. Too few people appreciate the value of the tribal tattoo.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 53	Posted - 2011.12.02 16:14:00 - [11] - Quote Ava Starfire wrote: Ah, and to the OP... come to Dal. I have all sorts of Minmatar cultural knowledge to share with you. Unfortunately, you can bet he won't. He doesn't seem the type that has the strength of will to those of his own power (capsuleers) who would call him out after he betrays them. I'd chase him into high security space to turn him into an expanding cloud of vapor, but after a few past adventures of the same sort, the Empire's police doesn't take kindly to me being around and in a ship.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 62	Posted - 2011.12.07 16:29:00 - [12] - Quote Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote: ~longquote~ And if we Minmatar do the same thing, we're called savages. I love hypocrisy.
Petrus Blackshell Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 62	Posted - 2011.12.07 18:09:00 - [13] - Quote Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote: Well, you are savages. Why can't you settle your disagreements over deadly poison tea like civilized people? Because autocannons are more fun and involve fewer cozies. Edit for conjugation fail.

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